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There are several efforts to create Live CDs of GNUstep There are several efforts to create Live CDs of GNUstep
-==GNUSTEP Live CD==+==GNUSTEP live CD==
-of Gürkan Sengün, [http://www.linuks.mine.nu/gnustep/ Version 1.0] released on November 6, 2006+of Gürkan Sengün, [http://io.debian.net/~tar/gnustep/ Version 2.0] released on December 10, 2009
 + 
 +===Supported architectures===
 +* i686
 +* AMD64
 +* PowerPC
 +* UltraSPARC
 +(all with multiple CPUs)
 + 
 +===Minimal Requirements===
 +* 128 MB Memory
 +* CD-ROM drive or USB slot where you can boot from
 + 
 +===Notes===
 +I think a lot of the bugs listed below are caused by GNUstep and WindowMaker, and not the Live CD itself. The reason I say this is because I experience some of these issues with my GNUstep installation, and most times I build it from scratch from SVN or stable releases.
====Bugs==== ====Bugs====
-* Some Apps can't be started from [[GWorkspace]], instead openapp <MyApplication> is required + 
-: Which?+* Some windows (for instance in DBModeler.app) can't be accessed since the title bar is off-screen (a seasoned GNUstepper knows how to fix this but what about the newbies?) (This happens with most GNUstep apps, and should be fixed in GNUstep/Gorm)
-:: Cynthiune.app, DBModeler.app, Gorm.app, Lynkeos.app, ProjectCenter.app, Scheme.app, UL.app+: gdl2 doesn't build anymore with the latest gnustep tarball release!
-* Some windows (for instance in DBModeler.app) can't be accessed since the title bar is offscreen (a seasoned gnustepper knows how to fix this but what about the newbees?)+
-* most dock icons show a generic icon at startup and reveal their true nature not before starting the associated app+
-* Some menus behave oddly +
-** [[Image:menu-bug.png]]+
-* Sometimes a PS/2 mouse isn't recognized (differs from boot time to boot time on the same hardware)+
-* Some Apps have obvious bugs: +
-** Cenon: on startup: "NSRangeException Index 0 is out of range 0 (in 'objectAtIndex:')"+
-** DBModeler: Inspector Window is offscreen (the titlebar)+
Bugs reported by Fred Kiefer: Bugs reported by Fred Kiefer:
-* It took a long time to start up, during this it tried to get a network connection via DHCP and also prepared the nfonts. I think the first should be switched off and the fonts preprepared.  
-: Your computer is very slow? Run a DHCP server in the network? Hm yeah maybe the prepreparation is a good idea, wonder how... 
-* There were no names on the dock icons, making it hard to realise what they were standing for.  
-: I can fix that, exit wmaker, and it writes different WMState 
-* The fonts didn't display white space.  
-: Can you provide a screenshot for this? 
* There were no colour schemas predefined. * There were no colour schemas predefined.
: Can you provide the schemas and tell where they get on the filesystem? : Can you provide the schemas and tell where they get on the filesystem?
:: There's some under the Modules/ColorSchemes directory of SystemPreferences in svn. I'm not 100% sure, but I think they go under $GNUSTEP_SYSTEM_ROOT/Library/Colors. :: There's some under the Modules/ColorSchemes directory of SystemPreferences in svn. I'm not 100% sure, but I think they go under $GNUSTEP_SYSTEM_ROOT/Library/Colors.
 +:::Is it possible that these are not installed? Where should I find those if I have /usr/lib/GNUstep as GNUstep root?
 +:::: As far as I know, there's no SystemPreferences package under Debian, which might be why you can't find it. For some reason Debian packages Preferences (the Backbone program) and not SystemPreferences (the GNUstep program). SystemPreferences seems to do a little more than Preferences as it's development is active, and I'm not sure if Backbone is. In my opinion, the only Backbone program worth using is Terminal.app, because Ink can replace TextEdit and SystemPreferences can replace Preferences.
 +::::: I really like the tool "open". TextEdit has several features more that Ink doesn't have. Does Ink handle RTFD, Font ligatures and kerning, Preferences?
 +::::: SystemPreferences doesn't build/work for me! And backbone is actively developped!
-====Feature Requests====+===Feature Requests===
-* it should be obvious how to install GNUSTEP on HD from within the Live CD (ideally by employing a GUI based wizard) +* it should be obvious how to install GNUstep on HD from within the Live CD (ideally by employing a GUI based wizard)
: I've got a text file on how to do it, what about you write an installer? : I've got a text file on how to do it, what about you write an installer?
:: Can you mail me that file? How much is the effort needed to build such an installer (roundabout)? :: Can you mail me that file? How much is the effort needed to build such an installer (roundabout)?
::: Feel free to put it up on a server some where, cause I'd be interested too! If the procedures aren't too intensive, it could probably be done by FOSDEM with sh scripts. ::: Feel free to put it up on a server some where, cause I'd be interested too! If the procedures aren't too intensive, it could probably be done by FOSDEM with sh scripts.
 +
 +:The file is online and linked at the Installing as install.txt
 +
 +===Future===
 +Future versions are planned, help is welcome and needed that gnustep-make,base,gui,back in Debian packages are updated to the latest tarball releases.

Revision as of 09:00, 18 December 2009

There are several efforts to create Live CDs of GNUstep

Contents

GNUSTEP live CD

of Gürkan Sengün, Version 2.0 released on December 10, 2009

Supported architectures

  • i686
  • AMD64
  • PowerPC
  • UltraSPARC

(all with multiple CPUs)

Minimal Requirements

  • 128 MB Memory
  • CD-ROM drive or USB slot where you can boot from

Notes

I think a lot of the bugs listed below are caused by GNUstep and WindowMaker, and not the Live CD itself. The reason I say this is because I experience some of these issues with my GNUstep installation, and most times I build it from scratch from SVN or stable releases.

Bugs

  • Some windows (for instance in DBModeler.app) can't be accessed since the title bar is off-screen (a seasoned GNUstepper knows how to fix this but what about the newbies?) (This happens with most GNUstep apps, and should be fixed in GNUstep/Gorm)
gdl2 doesn't build anymore with the latest gnustep tarball release!


Bugs reported by Fred Kiefer:

  • There were no colour schemas predefined.
Can you provide the schemas and tell where they get on the filesystem?
There's some under the Modules/ColorSchemes directory of SystemPreferences in svn. I'm not 100% sure, but I think they go under $GNUSTEP_SYSTEM_ROOT/Library/Colors.
Is it possible that these are not installed? Where should I find those if I have /usr/lib/GNUstep as GNUstep root?
As far as I know, there's no SystemPreferences package under Debian, which might be why you can't find it. For some reason Debian packages Preferences (the Backbone program) and not SystemPreferences (the GNUstep program). SystemPreferences seems to do a little more than Preferences as it's development is active, and I'm not sure if Backbone is. In my opinion, the only Backbone program worth using is Terminal.app, because Ink can replace TextEdit and SystemPreferences can replace Preferences.
I really like the tool "open". TextEdit has several features more that Ink doesn't have. Does Ink handle RTFD, Font ligatures and kerning, Preferences?
SystemPreferences doesn't build/work for me! And backbone is actively developped!

Feature Requests

  • it should be obvious how to install GNUstep on HD from within the Live CD (ideally by employing a GUI based wizard)
I've got a text file on how to do it, what about you write an installer?
Can you mail me that file? How much is the effort needed to build such an installer (roundabout)?
Feel free to put it up on a server some where, cause I'd be interested too! If the procedures aren't too intensive, it could probably be done by FOSDEM with sh scripts.
The file is online and linked at the Installing as install.txt

Future

Future versions are planned, help is welcome and needed that gnustep-make,base,gui,back in Debian packages are updated to the latest tarball releases.